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Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - ZooFunkyFace - 06-15-2009 07:15 AM

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Nintendo’s new MotionPlus controller, which is said to create a true 1:1 experience when used with Nintendo’s Wii Remote, may be a required device to play the up and coming Zelda game. Miyamoto has said that: 'The goal at this point is that we would make Wii MotionPlus required in order to play Zelda’, this seems to not be their biggest hurdle though, as Miyamoto has said that they want to make it so that the experience is so enriching that you will simply want the extra peripheral.

Whether or not this will truly be a 1:1 experience is yet to be seen, but if this is true then hopefully it will be well integrated into the next Zelda; and with Miyamoto heading it, this reporter is sure it will. Here’s a question for you though, rumours have been abound about Link not having a sword in this game, but with the requirement of Wii MotionPlus it would seem natural to have such gameplay in the game. What do you think it’ll be used primarily for?

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Reported By: Alex D.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - ZoSo - 06-15-2009 08:05 AM

Eh...everyone will buy MotionPlus anyway for games like Wii Sports Resort and Red Steel 2.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - nickname:Flipper - 06-15-2009 10:33 AM

I'll buy Wii Motion Plus if it means I can play the new Zelda game XD

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - LemonManX - 06-15-2009 10:37 AM

I'll buy Motion Plus for Zelda.
:3

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Kindrik - 06-15-2009 11:11 AM

I already bought MotionPlus with Tiger. I'll get my second with Wii Sports Resort and be set.

Alex51011 Wrote:What do you think it’ll be used primarily for?
Well I'm sure Link will get a sword at some point for at least a little while, and if he doesn't have this sword then maybe it's used as his shield to block incoming attacks. Based on the amount of new weapons that were present in Twilight Princess there's no reason why they couldn't design something around WM+, and of course there will be either side quests or mini-games that use it in a variety of ways.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - LemonManX - 06-15-2009 11:12 AM

Tiger... Wii Sports Resort...

I'm not buying Motion Plus right now because the software that uses it at the moment does not interest me. I don't feel like wasting money on something I won't use for four or so months.

They should have released it with something better.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Kindrik - 06-15-2009 11:22 AM

Well I figured I was going to need it later on for games like RS2 anyway and now Zelda's added into that mix. And to be honest I'm actually fairly excited for Wii Sports Resort all of a sudden while Tiger is really surprisingly deep with all the different modes it's got and all the online stuff.

also, edited my last post.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Wiiwillrockyou - 06-15-2009 04:27 PM

I'll just get motion plus by itself.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Cubroso - 06-15-2009 05:20 PM

I'll be fetching Wii Motion Plus with Wii Sports Resort (since I'm planning on getting that, anyway). Getting it to play things like Red Steel 2, this new Zelda, and especially Desperate Struggle will be icing on the cake. In the mean time, those games aren't out yet, so I'll just remain patient.

Another note, I'm glad that they decided to make the move for this to be exclusive for the Wii Motion Plus. It would just be another Twilight Princess in my eyes (control-wise, that is).

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Kindrik - 06-15-2009 05:26 PM

Düme Wrote:Another note, I'm glad that they decided to make the move for this to be exclusive for the Wii Motion Plus. It would just be another Twilight Princess in my eyes (control-wise, that is).
Well isn't that what all sequels are like? And when you consider that Sony's kept the same base controller design since the PSone to the PS3 then you could say that games haven't changed control-wise since then either.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Pancakes - 06-15-2009 06:47 PM

It'll be used for extremely efficient text input, like your name

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Cubroso - 06-15-2009 11:45 PM

Kindrik Wrote:Well isn't that what all sequels are like? And when you consider that Sony's kept the same base controller design since the PSone to the PS3 then you could say that games haven't changed control-wise since then either.

Although you're correct (I guess?), that really is not relevant / the point to what I was talking about...

When I say "another Twilight Princess", I mean the indecisive attempt Nintendo made to move/port a game that was done, good and finished. When they did that, they wasted time making a half-assed control system to a game that was well over a year finished, and they tried to pass it off as something that "worked as well" as if it were just made specifically for that system. I find it hard to believe that games that are made primarily for the single-player experience will work well when trying to cater to two completely different mindsets of what they're going to do with controls... But that's just me.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Rawrmander - 06-16-2009 12:14 AM

What exactly was wrong with TP's controls for Wii?

Am I the only person that liked the game?


But I digress; its great that they're making it exclusive.. but what exactly would it be of use for? Unless we're going first person a la Elder Scrolls, what's the point?

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Kindrik - 06-16-2009 12:18 AM

Düme Wrote:Although you're correct (I guess?), that really is not relevant / the point to what I was talking about...

When I say "another Twilight Princess", I mean the indecisive attempt Nintendo made to move/port a game that was done, good and finished. When they did that, they wasted time making a half-assed control system to a game that was well over a year finished, and they tried to pass it off as something that "worked as well" as if it were just made specifically for that system. I find it hard to believe that games that are made primarily for the single-player experience will work well when trying to cater to two completely different mindsets of what they're going to do with controls... But that's just me.
Ah, I see what you meant; wasn't quite sure at first. You've got a point then, but for starters, like Rawr I found nothing that was really wrong with the Wii controls in Twilight Princess.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - LemonManX - 06-16-2009 01:13 AM

I also had very little problems with the controls in TP. They were probably the highlight of an otherwise disappointing, underwhelming game.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Snakey - 06-16-2009 03:49 AM

Wii Motion Plus Zelda? Yes please.
LemonManX Wrote:I also had very little problems with the controls in TP.

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I actually thought they were pretty good. xD

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Wiiwillrockyou - 06-16-2009 06:56 PM

Rawrmander Wrote:What exactly was wrong with TP's controls for Wii?

Am I the only person that liked the game?

Nothing imo, I loved it.

Snakey Wrote:Wii Motion Plus Zelda? Yes please.
LemonManX Wrote:I also had very little problems with the controls in TP.

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I actually thought they were pretty good. xD

Agreed!

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - GlueGun18 - 06-16-2009 11:39 PM

What are we at now, like $90 for a freaking controller configuration so we can play some of these games? I'm sure WiiMotionPlus will be neat, but it's basically an admittance that they didn't get it right the first time and we have to pay for it.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Pancakes - 06-17-2009 12:16 AM

LemonManX Wrote:I also had very little problems with the controls in TP. They were probably the highlight of an otherwise disappointing, underwhelming game.

One case where the critics are correct, not the gamers.


See, Nintendo did exactly what you wanted, they made another Ocarina of Time when you bitched about Wind Waker, so don't complain.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - LemonManX - 06-17-2009 01:46 AM

I didn't and never have bitched about Wind Waker. I love that game to tiny little pieces so I can put the tiny little pieces in my pockets to remind me how awesome it was. Its up there with Ocarina, Majora's Mask and Link to the Past amongst the greatest Zelda games. Twilight Princess didn't cut it for me. Though I know what you mean, a lot of irrational people did b**** about Wind Waker, so they are probably to blame for this clone.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Kindrik - 06-17-2009 11:14 AM

LemonManX Wrote:Though I know what you mean, a lot of irrational people did b**** about Wind Waker, so they are probably to blame for this clone.
I was one of those people who bitched about it a lot before release, but now it's one of my favorite Zelda games to date.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Red - 06-17-2009 02:39 PM

I never even played TP and I don't plan on it because its just NPC for full price instead of 30$ and if it was 30$ I still wouldn't buy it the only games worthy of NPC are MPT and Pikmin 2

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Cubroso - 06-17-2009 06:02 PM

The Wind Waker argument is funny, considering how amazed most Nintendo fans are at how drastic the 3D Mario franchise changes with each inclusion (excluding Super Mario Galaxy 2, of course). In all honesty, I don't think that the people who complained about Wind Waker are still gaming (or shouldn't, at least). It was a fantastic game (for the hour-and-a-half I played it, I really need to find a copy for myself). I really wish more games would break the traditional mold like it did.

GlueGun18 Wrote:What are we at now, like $90 for a freaking controller configuration so we can play some of these games? I'm sure WiiMotionPlus will be neat, but it's basically an admittance that they didn't get it right the first time and we have to pay for it.

See, now this is the part I don't get about 2009, we get two new "me too" motion control devices from both Microsoft and Sony, they're totally seperate from the default controller that you use for those consoles, and those will range, what I'm guessing is, at roughly the same price as the entire controller for Nintendo's system? I'm sure the thirty US dollar entry fee for this one single-player experience isn't all that bad.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - ZooFunkyFace - 06-17-2009 06:18 PM

Düme Wrote:
GlueGun18 Wrote:What are we at now, like $90 for a freaking controller configuration so we can play some of these games? I'm sure WiiMotionPlus will be neat, but it's basically an admittance that they didn't get it right the first time and we have to pay for it.

See, now this is the part I don't get about 2009, we get two new "me too" motion control devices from both Microsoft and Sony, they're totally seperate from the default controller that you use for those consoles, and those will range, what I'm guessing is, at roughly the same price as the entire controller for Nintendo's system? I'm sure the thirty US dollar entry fee for this one single-player experience isn't all that bad.

Sure, if you're just going to always play by yourself. But let's be honest, Nintendo's all about lots of people playing. So that's 4 controllers, all decked out would cost nearly 400$. And you only need one Natal, not 4. :\ So it adds up.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Cubroso - 06-17-2009 06:41 PM

I'd see it as a problem if you had to pay that for an entirely new device. But this isn't the case due to it having thirty and twenty dollar add-ons.

Paint me ignorant if you want. I just don't see it as a big deal.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - LemonManX - 06-17-2009 08:04 PM

All the controllers are stupidly expensive really. And prices should be dropped on them bastards.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - GlueGun18 - 06-17-2009 09:46 PM

Düme Wrote:I'd see it as a problem if you had to pay that for an entirely new device. But this isn't the case due to it having thirty and twenty dollar add-ons.

Paint me ignorant if you want. I just don't see it as a big deal.

$20 on its own isn't really a big deal, but these things keep adding up. The controller will now be sold in three distinct, pricy parts which is pretty ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.

I will buy it if I have to in order to play Zelda but I won't like it. And why the f*** don't they pack it in with these games for an extra $10 or something if they are going to make it mandatory? I guess Nintendo is no longer touting the Wii as the "affordable" option for gaming.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - LemonManX - 06-17-2009 09:48 PM

I remember hearing that that Red Steel 2. And I also thought that it was required for games to bundle it with the game was Wii Motion Plus exclusive. Or at least it should be required.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Kindrik - 06-17-2009 11:07 PM

GlueGun18 Wrote:
Düme Wrote:I'd see it as a problem if you had to pay that for an entirely new device. But this isn't the case due to it having thirty and twenty dollar add-ons.

Paint me ignorant if you want. I just don't see it as a big deal.

$20 on its own isn't really a big deal, but these things keep adding up. The controller will now be sold in three distinct, pricy parts which is pretty ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.

I will buy it if I have to in order to play Zelda but I won't like it. And why the f*** don't they pack it in with these games for an extra $10 or something if they are going to make it mandatory? I guess Nintendo is no longer touting the Wii as the "affordable" option for gaming.

There are pack-in versions of Tiger and Grand Slam Tennis which are like you said only $10 more. Wii Sports Resort is obviously going to have it, and I'd assume Red Steel 2 will as well. And depending on how many MotionPlus units they've sold Zelda would probably have a pack-in SKU.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Rawrmander - 06-17-2009 11:11 PM

Why don't the just update the Wiimotes with whatever technology WM+ has in it?

You know, other then "because they want to make more money".

And of course have the separate WM+ for use with the "old" (current) wiimotes.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Kindrik - 06-17-2009 11:19 PM

Rawrmander Wrote:You know, other then "because they want to make more money".
Well, there really isn't any other reason right now. They make more money this way. I think it'll happen eventually, just not any time soon. It's going to be at least a year to a year and a half before this happens.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Cubroso - 06-18-2009 12:42 AM

Rawrmander Wrote:Why don't the just update the Wiimotes with whatever technology WM+ has in it?

Then the price complaint would be valid. In turn, it most likely wouldn't sell. Unless there's a Wii Motion Plus exclusive 'Wii Play Some More' bundle right around the corner.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Wii_Rulez - 06-18-2009 05:48 PM

Ubisoft did confirm that WM+ would be bundled with RS2 for what i would assume would be $10 more, Sega's Virtua Tennis is the only WM+ game that doesn't have a bundle right now i believe.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Wiiwillrockyou - 06-19-2009 07:12 PM

GlueGun18 Wrote:
Düme Wrote:I'd see it as a problem if you had to pay that for an entirely new device. But this isn't the case due to it having thirty and twenty dollar add-ons.

Paint me ignorant if you want. I just don't see it as a big deal.

$20 on its own isn't really a big deal, but these things keep adding up. The controller will now be sold in three distinct, pricy parts which is pretty ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.

I will buy it if I have to in order to play Zelda but I won't like it. And why the f*** don't they pack it in with these games for an extra $10 or something if they are going to make it mandatory? I guess Nintendo is no longer touting the Wii as the "affordable" option for gaming.

As much as I think this is heading in the right direction with WM+ and stuff, I'd have to agree with you there. It's now $80 for the complete package... And I thought that extra 360 controller was expensive.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Cubroso - 06-19-2009 09:06 PM

Again, if this was an entirely new unit that was needed to be purchased, I would see it as a problem.

I must be the only one not blowing this out of proportion.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - drew102e - 06-19-2009 09:22 PM

Kindrik Wrote:Well I figured I was going to need it later on for games like RS2 anyway and now Zelda's added into that mix. And to be honest I'm actually fairly excited for Wii Sports Resort all of a sudden while Tiger is really surprisingly deep with all the different modes it's got and all the online stuff.

also, edited my last post.

i really want tiger, wonder how much i can get for last years ?

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Kindrik - 06-19-2009 10:07 PM

drew102e Wrote:i really want tiger, wonder how much i can get for last years ?
As in for a trade-in? No more than $6 or $7 I'd say.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - drew102e - 06-20-2009 07:57 AM

meh, i'll keep it then

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Red - 06-20-2009 09:02 AM

Düme Wrote:Then the price complaint would be valid. In turn, it most likely wouldn't sell. Unless there's a Wii Motion Plus exclusive 'Wii Play Some More' bundle right around the corner.

Sadly somebodys making a wii play some more its just not from nintendo.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - Kindrik - 06-20-2009 12:16 PM

drew102e Wrote:meh, i'll keep it then
Well, if you're going to trade it in towards Tiger 10 then I would do it. Because you'd be getting a much better golf game in return.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - river_chaos - 06-20-2009 02:38 PM

Jeeze....from what I'm reading here I'll have to put this game on a wish list if I ever want to it. There's no way I could save my money for this and go with the school band to contest next year.

RE: Wii Motion Plus Required for new Zelda - drew102e - 06-20-2009 09:07 PM

oh i still want 10, just gonna keep mine too